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BD Loops Debunks Industry Myth – Electrical Lines & Snow Melt Systems Near Loops


If you install loops you have probably been told to keep loops away from power lines. We’ve seen a wide variety of recommendations when it comes to how far away loops need to be kept from power lines, recently a 3ft standoff distance seems to be the most popular. This 3’ standoff recommendation even appears in industry association training manuals.

BD Loops has been fighting this power line standoff distance myth for years, we understand that keeping a 3ft standoff distance from power lines makes the installers job needlessly difficult.  Often times power lines are run under the driveway or directly next to it which makes following the standoff guidelines and properly protecting the full driveway width/gate path with loops impossible. When installers follow the 3ft standoff guideline they are often installing less safe systems.

We have done extensive testing on loops and power lines and found that 60Hzs systems do not affect vehicle detectors because most detectors run at a frequency of 20kHz to 120kHz which is far outside the rage of harmonic distortion (which is what would cause interference). In these tests we have tied our loops directly to power lines and every detector module we have tested did not experience cross talk or false detections during the test, even with overloaded circuits and the detectors set to their highest sensitivity settings. We tied our loops directly to both 110V and 220V systems, and have yet to record electrical interference with loop function. View the full power lines and loops test at www.BDLoops.com.

While we are on the subject of power lines, another obstacle installers sometimes face is having to work with inspectors, architect, and system designers who falsely believe that loops fall under electrical codes such as the NEC.  Loops do not fall under NEC.  Nobody has been, or will ever be electrocuted by an inductance loop. Feel confident in asserting that loops do not fall under NEC to inspectors.

Loops and Snow Melt Systems

Summer is finally here which means installers who work in colder climates may find themselves installing loops in brand new driveways with a snow melt system.  Last year we were finally able to run in house tests on how loops perform with snow melt systems. We procured 2 popular types of 220V snow melt cables/systems and tied our loops directly to the systems in a variety of sizes and configurations.

We discovered that loops can be installed over snow melt systems. Most loops installed with snow melt systems are unlikely to experience false detections or interference. Larger loops (larger than 6×12’) are slightly more prone to interference than smaller loops, but with most loop detectors this isn’t an issue at all.

That being said, detector choice is very important when installing loops with snow melt cables. In our testing there were quite a few detector modules that NEVER experienced false detections or interference with either snow melt system.
The first type of snow melt system we tested was PENTAIR’s Pyrotenax MI (Mineral Insulated) Heating Cable System. This system caused false detections and interference on 3 of the detector modules that were tested. The interference and false detections only occurred when the detectors were set to the highest sensitivity levels. In real world applications detector modules are rarely set to their highest sensitivity setting, so generally there will be no issues with installing loops over a snow melt system.

The second snow melt system was PENTAIR’s Raychem ElectroMelt System (with self-regulating heating cables). This system caused no interference or false detections on any of the detector modules. This type snow melt system is better suited for being used with inductive loops.

Conducting these snow melt tests has convinced us that a preformed loop with an outer jacket will provide the best chance of success when installed with a snow melt system, for three major reasons:

  1. Snow melt systems must be installed close to the surface to work properly, this means you need to use a loop that can be tied directly to the snow melt system, because standing the loop off from the snow melt system will put you right at or above the surface.
  2. Preformed loops with an outer jacket are more rugged than loops wrapped by hand. This is important because the snow melt cables will get hotter in any area where the loop comes into contact with it. In the case of the Mineral Insulated cable we tested, the snow melt cables can become so hot that the outer jacket/coating of the snow melt system can melt.  
  3. Rigid, narrow loops make a difference – BD Loops are rigid and easy to form, and the wire our loops are made with is narrow. This means very little of the loop wire will be in direct contact with the snow melt system which will help prevent the snow melt cable from being damaged.

The full reports/test results for the above mentioned tests are available here: Loops and Power Lines and Loops and Snow Melt Systems.

For the past 8 years BD Loops has been the driving force behind dispelling myths surrounding inductance loops in the door and gate industry. BD Loops has been working with multiple industry associations and manufacturers to help improve the quality inductance loop education available to installers. Many industry myths and common practices taught to installers make installing loops much more difficult than it should be. To see common industry myths that BD Loops has dispelled view this article: https://bdloops.com/myths_and_facts_saw-cut_loops.html


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BD Loops was founded in 2001. Their preformed loops and accessories are designed with the installer in mind. BD Loops offers a complete loop system solution including preformed direct burial loops, preformed saw-cut loops, loop sealant, blades, testing devices, and installation tools. BD Loops has a reputation for reliability and ease of installation. They pride themselves on the quality of their products and their commitment to providing excellent customer service and support. BD Loops preformed loops are made in the USA at their facility in Placentia, CA.